Comments on: Translink Planning Department’s Response to my Critiques of the Central Valley Greenway (CVG) https://averagejoecyclist.com/translink-planning-departments-response-to-my-critiques-of-the-central-valley-greenway-cvg/ A Blog for Average People who LOVE to ride bikes! Tue, 27 Jun 2017 04:29:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Lori Mitchells https://averagejoecyclist.com/translink-planning-departments-response-to-my-critiques-of-the-central-valley-greenway-cvg/#comment-724 Tue, 16 Nov 2010 01:39:03 +0000 https://averagejoecyclist.com/?p=1522#comment-724 @Clark, maybe you should send that idea on to Translink, it sounds really good.

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By: JoeAverage https://averagejoecyclist.com/translink-planning-departments-response-to-my-critiques-of-the-central-valley-greenway-cvg/#comment-704 Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:32:04 +0000 https://averagejoecyclist.com/?p=1522#comment-704 In reply to Clark Nikolai.

Sounds good – anything that keeps you off Clark is good with me. It is a major challenge though, so it will be interesting to see how they proceed.

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By: Clark Nikolai https://averagejoecyclist.com/translink-planning-departments-response-to-my-critiques-of-the-central-valley-greenway-cvg/#comment-700 Sun, 14 Nov 2010 06:17:20 +0000 https://averagejoecyclist.com/?p=1522#comment-700 I wonder what the bridge will be like at Clark Drive and Great Northern Way. I see that there’s a path parallel to Terminal Avenue on Northern Street, that goes from Station Street to Cottrell Street at the back of the Home Depot there.
I was thinking that a bike route could connect with that and go along South of the Home Depot parking lot and then some sort of ramp spiral bridge thing (much like the one over that would go over the train tracks and then go East next to the VCC Clark station and then ramp up into the Grandview Cut, underneath Clark Drive and then slope up to connect to the path on the North side of the Grandview Cut. This way you won’t have to cross Clark Drive at all.

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By: The Buzzer blog » Central Valley Greenway: an update from our planning team https://averagejoecyclist.com/translink-planning-departments-response-to-my-critiques-of-the-central-valley-greenway-cvg/#comment-477 Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:53:27 +0000 https://averagejoecyclist.com/?p=1522#comment-477 […] informative response, I thought I’d spotlight it here for all to read! Joe has also put it on his blog too. The CVG was part of Transport Canada’s Urban Transportation Showcase Program, which wrapped […]

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By: JoeAverage https://averagejoecyclist.com/translink-planning-departments-response-to-my-critiques-of-the-central-valley-greenway-cvg/#comment-416 Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:20:29 +0000 https://averagejoecyclist.com/?p=1522#comment-416 In reply to Graeme.

I agree that Winston is probably more daunting than actually dangerous. And it is LESS daunting than say, for example, Lougheed. I never thought of the Government/Phillips detour. I think I may try it – anything to get away from the thundering traffic. I guess I am just more rattled by fast-moving traffic than some cyclists. I’d like a network of car-free ROADS, let alone lanes :) – but that’s not going to happen until fuel reserves start to run out, and I don’t know if that will be in my lifetime.

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By: Graeme https://averagejoecyclist.com/translink-planning-departments-response-to-my-critiques-of-the-central-valley-greenway-cvg/#comment-415 Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:15:03 +0000 https://averagejoecyclist.com/?p=1522#comment-415 In reply to Martian Arts.

I don’t think any part of Winston is actually dangerous or unsafe (unlike Still Creek), but it is certainly daunting for the casual cyclist. The lanes (for both the cyclist and the motor traffic) are plenty wide, but a noisy truck passing from behind can startle someone who’s not used to it.

The Winston section is rather long, though. As I come from just north of the Production Way station, I often take Government/Phillips from Costco, avoiding the boring part of Winston. Sometimes I even go a couple of extra kilometres by going way up around the Burnaby golf course and down Sperling, avoiding Winston altogether.

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By: JoeAverage https://averagejoecyclist.com/translink-planning-departments-response-to-my-critiques-of-the-central-valley-greenway-cvg/#comment-411 Sun, 24 Oct 2010 06:37:52 +0000 https://averagejoecyclist.com/?p=1522#comment-411 In reply to Oemissions.

I agree, Oemissions. Ford only began mass producing cars in 1920 (90 years ago). Human beings have flourished and developed on this planet for somewhere between 50 thousand and 200 thousand years. Even if it’s “only” 50 thousand years, human beings still got along just fine without personal automobiles for more than 99% of our existence on this earth. In that 99% of our time here, we also caused almost NO HARM to our habitat (Earth). Now, in less than half a percent of our existence, we have come to think that personal autos are our birthright, and are essential to human survival! And we ignore the fact that these autos slaughter us like flies, and are destroying our planet. SHould we change the name of our species to “Homo lemming”?

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By: Oemissions https://averagejoecyclist.com/translink-planning-departments-response-to-my-critiques-of-the-central-valley-greenway-cvg/#comment-410 Sun, 24 Oct 2010 06:18:21 +0000 https://averagejoecyclist.com/?p=1522#comment-410 We have had too many personal automobiles on this planet for decades. It just keeps getting worse.
What stupid design to make pedestrians and cyclists have to share pathways with these NOISE producing toxic exhausting stressful vehicles.
The Departments of Health should have acted long ago.
The auto companies should be charged for these social costs (which amount to billions of taxpayers dollars) as well as drivers.

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By: Martian Arts https://averagejoecyclist.com/translink-planning-departments-response-to-my-critiques-of-the-central-valley-greenway-cvg/#comment-406 Sat, 23 Oct 2010 20:04:02 +0000 https://averagejoecyclist.com/?p=1522#comment-406 Well I have to say I think it would be excessive to compare our plight to that of a minority group in the early 20th century. Nevertheless, Stephan has a point in that some parts literally risk life and limb. Here I think specifically of Stillcreek and Winston – more especially the latter, as it is so long, and the traffic can very fast-moving.

As to Stephan’s other point : it may very well be valid to question whether, if a dream has a small part that is a nightmare, is it still a dream? I know that if I am dreaming and I come across a nightmare part, I immediately awaken. So perhaps Stephan you have a point.

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By: Stephan https://averagejoecyclist.com/translink-planning-departments-response-to-my-critiques-of-the-central-valley-greenway-cvg/#comment-402 Sat, 23 Oct 2010 06:10:48 +0000 https://averagejoecyclist.com/?p=1522#comment-402 I don’t really want ot hear we should be greatful for what we have and shut up about it. That’s like after African americans got the vote and then they were supposed to shut up and be greatful, well, the point is we are nowhere near equal in rights with car-drivers yet. But we have to pay exactly the same taxes! So, yes, thank you for the CVG, but I want tax dollars to go, and go quickly to making it perfect and safe for all. Just like no one would say thank you! for a road that was not completely safe why are we saying thank you for a cycle path that is not completely safe yet. AJC it is a dream yes but parts of it are also a nightmare so I say you go dude and lets just keep demanding until you me and everyone else can get on our bikes and go wherever we want to without having to be biking in a nightmare AT ANY POINT.

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